【LGBT】伝説の女テニスプレイヤー「女になった元男は賞金を稼ぎまくる。これは不正だ」→除名処分にされる

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性的少数者(LGBT)のスポーツ選手を支援する団体が、ウィンブルドン元王者のマルチナ・ナヴラチロワ氏(62)との提携関係を解消した。

同氏は、トランスジェンダー(出生時の身体的性別と性自認が異なる人)の女性選手が女子競技に出場することに批判的な発言を繰り返しており、団体がこれを問題視した。

ナヴラチロワ氏は自分はレズビアンだと公表している。

グランドスラム大会で18回タイトルを獲得したチェコ・プラハ出身のナヴラチロワ氏は、身体的に優位なトランスジェンダー女性が女子競技に出場することを認めるのは「不正行為」だと主張していた。

アメリカを拠点にLGBTのスポーツ選手への支援活動を行なう団体アスリート・アライは、ナヴラチロワ氏の発言はトランスジェンダー嫌悪で、世間にはびこる誤解をさらに広めるものだと反発している。

アスリート・アライは、ナヴラチロワ氏を同団体の諮問委員会、そして大使としての立場からも直ちに除名したと発表した。

引用元: ・【LGBT】伝説の女テニスプレイヤー「女性になった男性は大会に出場し賞金を稼ぎまくる。これは狂ってるし不正行為だ」→除名処分に

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ナヴラチロワ氏は英紙サンデー・タイムズに寄稿し、

「女性になると選んだ男性は、関連スポーツ団体が要求するなら必要なホルモン投与を受け、女性として大会に出場し手当たり次第に優勝しまくり、そこそこの大金を稼ぐことができる。そのあとで男性に戻り、望むなら子供を作る生活に戻れる」

と主張した。

さらに、

「これは狂ってるし、不正行為だ」

とナヴラチロワ氏は強調し、

「トランスジェンダー女性を本人の望む形で呼ぶのは喜んでするが、スポーツで競い合うのは望まない。それは公平ではないから」

と付け加えた。

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この発言に、トランスジェンダー女性の選手が即座に反論した。

自転車競技の国際大会に昨年出場し、トラック種目で優勝したレイチェル・マキノン選手は、ナヴラチロワ氏の発言について

「不快で、動揺している。深刻なトランスフォビック発言だ」

と批判した。

アスリート・アライは声明で、ナヴラチロワ氏の発言は

「科学やデータの誤解に基づくトランスフォビックなもので、差別的な法律や憎悪に満ちたステレオタイプ、そして過剰な暴力によってトランスジェンダーの人の標的化につながる、社会の危険な思い込みを補強するものだ」

と述べた。

団体はさらに、

「我々がこの件でマルチナに申し入れたのは、今回が初めてではない。同氏は昨年12月にソーシャルメディアを通じて、トランスジェンダー選手の競技参加について、非常に憂慮すべき意見を発信した。
我々は、理解を深める助けになるような情報の提供を直接申し出たが、返事はなかった」

と付け加えた。

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アスリート・アライによると、ナヴラチロワ氏は同団体の大使に就任し、2014年に初めて開催された年次パーティでは、
LGBTアスリートの環境づくりやLGBTアスリートへの差別を無くすための先駆的な活動をした個人や団体に贈られる「Action Award」を受賞した。

それ以来、ナヴラチロワ氏は様々なアスリート支援活動に貢献し、国際バスケットボール連盟(FIBA)にムスリム(イスラム教徒)女性のヒジャブ禁止を撤廃するよう求める公開書簡に署名したり、
2017年にはテキサス州の反トランスジェンダー法案に公開書簡で抗議したりしてきた。

団体側によると、今回の除名処分についてナヴラチロワ氏からの反応はまだないという。

1980年代にレズビアンだと公表し、嫌がらせに苦しんだ経験を持つナヴラチロワ氏は、同性愛者の権利のために長年活動してきた。

2016年に導入された国際オリンピック委員会(IOC)の指針では、女性として生まれた後に男性になった選手の出場は、無制限に認められる。

一方で、男性から女性になった選手は、筋肉量を増やすテストステロン値を少なくとも12カ月間は一定レベル以下に保つことが求められている。

女子テニスのナヴラチロワ氏、トランスジェンダー選手について発言が論争に - BBCニュース
ウィンブルドン元王者で同性愛者だと公表しているマルチナ・ナヴラチロワ氏(62)が、性的少数者(LGBT)の支援団体から除名された。トランスジェンダー(出生時の身体的性別と性自認が異なる人)の女性選手による女子競技出場を批判していたことが理由という。

6: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:18:16.290 ID:Cio+gDUOd
記事になってるレイチェル・マキノン選手はこの表彰台の真ん中の人

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24: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:39.511 ID:1lHi6LQL0
>>6
どう見てもおっさんが混じってんだが
71: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:26:37.702 ID:1FHLRrkY0
>>6
おっさんだな
91: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:32:00.931 ID:NiVERfah0
>>6
これはナブラチロワが正しい
ここまで線引きがgdgdならいっそ男子プロ女子プロではなく単にテニスという競技にして男女混合にしなきゃおかしい
100: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:34:39.977 ID:qsIBnRFdM
>>6
ポディウムガールに祝福してもらうおっさん選手の図?
12: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:19:05.124 ID:Cio+gDUOd
何がひでーってLGBTのために闘い続けたレジェンドですら
耳に痛い正論言ったら味方からポリコレ棒でぼっこぼこ
13: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:19:11.071 ID:3ZCgez200
ポリコレ戦国時代だな
14: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:19:21.169 ID:Cio+gDUOd
元男だらけの大会って誰が見たいんだよ
おかまの運動会かよマジで地獄だわ

女性の活躍する姿が見たいし、それが世の少女が見るべきもの

16: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:19:36.462 ID:Cio+gDUOd
もういっそ男女で分けるのやめたら?

代償として、普通の女がスポーツする機会はもう今後二度と訪れなくなるけど

17: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:19:49.510 ID:Cio+gDUOd
男女分けるのだってなんの正当性があるんだろうな

錦織と大坂なおみの対決見てみたくない?

25: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:41.955 ID:UgA9mHTz0
>>17
瞬時に終わる
それくらい性差はスポーツででかい
45: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:23:13.165 ID:2cO0IvF6M
>>17
女プロは男の高校生レベルだよ
それで混ぜるってのはもう女は競技プロになるなってことか
19: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:01.900 ID:Cio+gDUOd
フェミは認めないけど女子のプロスポーツって軽く性産業みたいなとこあるからな
元男のキモいやつばっかになったらあっという間に廃れるよ
誰も見に来なくなる

もう競技にするのなんかやめて真剣にやってる興行くらいの感じでいいんじゃない?

22: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:34.086 ID:Cio+gDUOd
ちなみに、トランスジェンダーのレズビアンとして、女性と結婚したキャスター・セメンヤさんがこちら

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男の体を持って生またトランスジェンダーであり、性転換で女になった
そして、本人はレズビアンであるから、女性と結婚した

男の体で生まれ、女と結婚した人間が、世界陸上で女として無双をしまくったという話

26: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:48.708 ID:3LzX69PwM
こんなのを認めたらオリンピック女子競技にオカマぶっ込んでくる国いっぱい出てくるぞ
33: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:21:12.543 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>26
中国とロシアが元男のアスリートを量産して
世界中の記録を塗り替えていく
28: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:20:50.356 ID:212nuLEy0
男でチンチン切った奴が女の大会出たらそいつが優勝するに決まってんだろwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
31: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:21:02.622 ID:H8CO4mkG0
男 女 その他で分ければいいじゃん?
35: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:21:51.206 ID:4XX+ZgPba
いずれこういう問題大きくなってくぞ
心は女だからとか心は男だからを今のうちから批判しないと
37: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:21:53.791 ID:lZYZcLiD0
体の差で決まるんだから性自認とかクソどうでもいい事で競技ぶっ壊されてもな
肉体がどうかで判断すべきだわ
38: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:22:01.247 ID:Cio+gDUOd
ハンナ・マウンシーさん(元男)
トランスジェンダーのハンドボール 選手

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41: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:22:43.623 ID:212nuLEy0
>>38
すまんが喧嘩売ってるとしか思えねえわ
47: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:23:33.896 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>41
マレーシアはイスラム教だから、そもそも男に触れてはいけないということらしい
それで何もできない
39: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:22:23.954 ID:45ITG8d/M
でもこれマジなら卑怯じゃね
大体の競技の女子トップは男子の中学トップレベルじゃん
42: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:22:49.832 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>39
それな
全盛期のセリーナが引退間際の200位のおっさんに簡単にボコられるんだから

なでしこも高校生との練習試合で20対0で負けてるし
吉田沙保里も、高校生の選手に軽く捻られるくらいの実力だからね

46: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:23:21.312 ID:xxvH7g+c0
レズならLGBTの身内じゃねえの?
スポーツマンシップとして肉体基準で区別しろっていうのは真っ当な正論に思えるが
54: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:24:38.124 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>46
レズビアンで昨日まで身内だった
ところがちょっとでも気に入らないとポリコレ棒でボッコボコ
そんな世界なんだよ
49: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:23:57.607 ID:r9GUmm3aM
これが許されるなら今からでも女になってなでしこJAPAN入りたい
絶対日本をワールドカップで優勝させてやる
56: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:24:56.351 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>49
高校でインターハイいけるレベルなら明日からエースのフォワードになれる
それくらい、女子サッカーはレベルが低い
バカにしてるんじゃなくて、骨格とか筋肉量とか赤血球の量とかそもそも全然違うから
男と女はそれくらい違いすぎる
58: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:25:37.765 ID:qGSdZHhHM
>>56
県選抜レベルやから余裕でなでしこだとレギュラー張れる自信しかない
というか女子サッカーって未だに縦ポンダッシュやってるからな

前線張るからロングボールいれてくれたらワンバック越えるCFに俺がなってやるぜ

65: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:26:02.669 ID:Cio+gDUOd
>>58
能力的には、かなり活躍できる実力あるよ
でも、女になる覚悟と、いろいろとやかく言われまくる覚悟があるならの話だけど
多分無理じゃねあなたには
57: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:25:08.926 ID:Cio+gDUOd
テニスって女子でも優勝すれば数十億貰える競技だから
偽る男が出てもおかしくないな
ていうか出て来てほしいどうなるか見てみたい
ポリコレ棒でどこまでできるのか逆に興味ある
62: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:25:50.143 ID:oKDih8aY0
ちんこ切って数十億か
63: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:25:51.154 ID:Cio+gDUOd
アタイは女やで→LGBTで女性枠に入って優勝しまくり大金ゲット→すまんなやっぱ男やったわ→男に戻る

なるほどそりゃ批判されるわ
これが普通にまかり通ったら誰もプロスポーツなんて見なくなるぞ

69: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:26:15.822 ID:50LwLkHiM
フェミニストさんたちはこれにはだんまり
88: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:31:38.344 ID:V23VkVftK
>>69
そのうち暴れるだろ今は流行りの話題じゃないから食いつかないだけで
70: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:26:18.850 ID:2cO0IvF6M
LGBTって障害なんだろ?
パラリンピックでやれよ
104: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:35:15.242 ID:TQoJ3/pD0
これが許されるなら性転換して女子ゴルフ乗り込めば上手い奴なら賞金無双できるな
106: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:35:29.973 ID:M3CD+8N50
これスポーツ界がしっかり考えないとスポーツ業界衰退になりかねない事態になりそう
114: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:37:40.673 ID:99J7KvEU0
レスリングとか最強じゃね?
軽量級に髭面でいけ
118: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:41:16.865 ID:UFv7TEsC0
現代の宦官だな
デフォルトじゃ才能無くてもタマ取れば出世できる
もう生まれつきの女がスポーツで成功出来る可能性はゼロ
人間では超えられないといわれたマリタ・コッホの400メートルの世界記録も抜かれるのか
124: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:42:49.988 ID:MVIe4D1W0
心は小学生だから、ジュニアの大会に出ます
これ出来るなら俺でも最強小学生として無双できるな
133: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:46:36.636 ID:w1eavnaxa
>>124
かわいい
125: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:43:19.416 ID:ipzBqryx0
スポーツじゃなくても男性ボディのトランスジェンダーは温泉とかトイレでどっち使うんだとか話題になるけど
ほとんどがボディの性別の方に行けって断言する日本はとっても健全だな
127: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:44:58.343 ID:UFv7TEsC0
日本はヤクザと刺青とトランスジェンダーの入浴お断り
部屋のふろに入れと
135: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:47:40.672 ID:XfaB+kdX0
パラリンピックに出たらええやん
性同一性「障害」やろ
162: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:56:57.788 ID:lFQFqCru0
>>135
性同一性障害ってジャンルは精神医学から削除されたんで、既に「障害」扱いではないんやで
先手必勝や
136: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:47:42.717 ID:3rTSTPyjd
LGBTの枠作ったら生まれ持っての男女と差別するな!って騒ぐのかな
141: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:48:44.818 ID:V23VkVftK
L・G・Bはさほど影響ないからいい
トランスジェンダーは根本からぶっ壊すレベルで致命的過ぎる
142: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:48:52.871 ID:ea0sLCbyM
LGBTはパラリンピックに入れればいいんじゃないかな
143: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:49:07.414 ID:44H02ukD0
ほんそれ
パラなら許す
150: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:51:16.223 ID:re/a7PRGa
別に心と体の性が不一致な人がいるのは分かるしそれが辛いのも察するしなるべく苦労しない社会になればいいと思うけど
体で競うものについて男女分けてあるところを心の性で分けようとするのは間違ってるでしょ
151: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:52:43.230 ID:FsGUnYlIM
体の性別で分ければ良いだけだろ
何のために分けてあるのかわかってないのか
156: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:53:59.292 ID:rvNCJTmUa
性不一致の大会作れや
トラリンピックとか
164: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 20:57:15.935 ID:/lRgzdrWM
普通は不利な方で参加するよな
そんなチート理解されるわけない
176: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 21:01:58.902 ID:pta9tG3Da
元男と女で力の差がっていうのを最初に読んだ時
黒人選手が他と比べると明らかに優位だから分けろって言ってるようなもんじゃないかと思ったけど
お前らの貼る写真の体格差みて考えを改めたわ
一緒にしちゃダメだろ
180: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2020/08/11(火) 21:02:32.856 ID:bs+3iuXjd
肉体的な性別と精神的な性別は区別しろよ
そもそも何のために男女でスポーツ分けてるのかもう一度考え直せ

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